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The Chick Filet Brouhaha and Why it Matters

Quote of the Day:

Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.”     Daniel Moynihan

Last week you may have heard about comments made by the founders of Chick Filet to the religious press regarding their views on homosexuality. If not, the story is readily available on the web.

Let’s get one thing out of the way right at the top. This story has nothing to do with the First Amendment. No criminal charges are pending. No government fines are forthcoming.

There has, however, been a push by liberal groups to boycott the chain and a predictable backlash from those who call themselves conservative to support it. I noticed particularly long drive through lines here in Jackson this weekend, by the way. But I digress.

What makes this little battle in the culture wars significant is that it is a continuation of the conflict between science and religion that goes back at least as far as Galileo observing that the Earth revolves around the sun.

You cannot “agree” with Chick Filet in their so-called views of homosexuality unless you are ignorant. I usually try not to offend on this page, and if I have, I regret it but I can’t apologize. Get educated on the subject. Like with global warming, evolution, the age of the Earth and that we indeed revolve around the sun, science is settled that homosexuality is a trait established at birth, not a choice. Not being a choice, it can’t be a sin. Not being a sin but rather a matter of fact, it is outside the jurisdiction of churches, the churchy and Chick Filet’s “views.”

One might as well have the “view” that germs don’t exist. “Hell, you ever seen one?!” Or that the moon is made of cheese. “My Pappy said so!” Or that the Periodic Table is a communist plot. (“All this workin’ t’gether to build thing talk…..makes me wanna shoot sumpin…”)

It is to America’s great shame that so many issues of scientific fact have bogged down to issues of politics. It is doubly shameful that the leaders of the GOP have made it so. Because, you see, it damages their credibility on everything else they say at a time when we desperately need their responsible input and leadership on a host of matters. If Republican leaders stir up the masses on non-issues such as gay marriage and evolution, it is a harmful diversion from our real problems, even if they are only using it for votes they see as necessary in a “by any means necessary” era. Maybe you don’t think that’s such a big deal, but add to that their obstinate refusal–in some cases reversal–to acknowledge the clear and present danger of climate change, a scientific reality that ignoring only allows to exacerbate. By denying the existence of what is probably the most important long term problem we face, they leave all theories for remedying the problem to their political and ideological opposites, and deprive us the benefit of a sensible compromise and multi-faceted approach. And that’s the best case scenario. Thus far they have prevented any national action whatsoever.

That is the problem with, not so much Chick Filet’s comments, but the reaction to them. Half of America thinks what they “believe” about science is more important than what the facts actually show. When we expend so much energy arguing fact vs fiction, how can we ever expect to reach reasonable compromises on solutions to real problems, or for that matter, to even agree on which problems actually exist?

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PS, spare me the “Democrats suck too” comments. That is true. This post is about denying science.

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  • Fig Shade E

    Redd, if one is born with down’s syndrome, which is proven to be caused by genetics, one cannot enter a 12 step program or join Weight Watchers to change that condition. Lots of alcoholics with or without counseling go cold turkey and never drink again. Lots of formally overweight individuals change their eating habits and/or the amount of physical activity they participate in on a daily basis, and lose and keep weight off. Regarding homosexuality, what about those who say they are homosexual, then decide they are really heterosexual? As for the video evidence you provided me, that is one interesting book. It reminds me of a dog Sweet had when we were younger. The dog liked to have sexual relations with basketballs. I don’t think he had a “I’ll Hump A Spalding” gene. I think he just needed to get his rocks off, much like the animals depicted in that book.

    August 09 2012
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    • Smilyj

      And I agree with Mac. The gay side in this argument should stop trying to force their morals on someone who doesn’t share theirs.

      August 07 2012
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      • smilyj

        Science only matters to people when it proves they are right. Global warming has science backing both for and against. The difference is there is way more money and accolades to be had if the science backs it up. Im not convinced either way yet. I do feel its a mistake to jump to either conclusion. Steps can be taken just in case, without going overboard. What would it hurt? But to think that the earth has never been as hot as it is now, just strikes me as niave. We have had periods of global freezing with no manmade help. And global warming of the natural variety is what unfroze the earth. As for homosexuality, There are many genetic traits for humans and many learned. We are the only species that has so many learned traits. I believe homosexuality can be a learned or chosen behavior. I also believe many are born with genetics that predispose them to that behavior. But a human has much control of his own mind. I mean I have not always been attracted to the same type of woman. It has changed over the years. And many, many gay men are very attracted and very capable of being attracted to women. And vice versa for gay women. Do I believe genetics palys a part? yes, But I also believe theres a point where a human chooses his path. I mean you would also have to believe that people are born bi-sexual. Things like metabolism and body type are different than behaviors and really cant be compared. That is what makes humans special and dominant. Our ability to learn behaviors. How we learn is our choice. I think its also what causes most of our conflicts. I leave you with a thought. If you put a human on a desert island. From infancy, and that child miraculously survived. I know farfetched but its hypothetical. This child never sees another man or woman. He doesnt even know there are others out there. Then one day he is rescued and brought to civilization. He will not know whether he is gay or straight. He will not know that he is supposed to be attracted to women. Or a man for that matter. Not until he is absorbed into society and then depending on his surroundings he will begin to exhibit these human qualities.

        August 07 2012
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        • Irvine Redd

          Fig,

          Here you go:

          Science, translated for humors sake via Ricky Gervais, on homosexuality in animals. It exists in a large amount of species on this planet.

          And genetics does have something to do with alcoholism and obesity. Yes both of those traits can be chosen, but I can look at myself as the counter proof in regards to obesity. I got metabolism from my mother, and that metabolism is incredibly high, giving me the ability to eat a large amount of food, much more than I should consume in some cases, but I rarely gain weight, and I lose weight rather quickly. I’ve struggled to gain weight most of my life, the only time I was really able to put some pounds on was in high school and I was eating 5 meals a day. I’m genetically predisposed to this condition. I’m not skinny as a rail because I choose to be. I don’t really have a choice in the matter. That is until I hit my mid-40s when I have been informed my metabolism will disappear.

          August 06 2012
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          • Mac

            I would also like to see the settled science. Everything I have seen points to both. Nature and nurture. Will on Big Brother should shut the door on nature. If that boy wasn’t born gay…I just don’t know. But saying that, I don’t see where it matters. Whether genetics or a choice, it is forcing your morals upon two adults. That isn’t right no matter how you slice it.

            August 04 2012
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            • Fig Shade E

              TB, count me as one of the ignorant masses you loath in this piece. I’m of the Seinfeld “not that there is anything wrong with that” mentality as it relates to whatever people do in the privacy of their own homes is none of my business. Hell, we all do some weird things behind closed doors. But, I don’t believe homosexuality is genetic. I am not aware of conclusive science that asserts that fact, either. Of all species of animals, mammals, etc. on Earth that we know about, how many have homosexuality as a trait in their gene pool? If you shuck it all down as to why Homo sapiens are on Earth, it is to reproduce and to eat (hunt & kill). A homosexual gene has no place in the Homo sapiens gene pool. In terms of sexual behaviors in which males and females aren’t participating in, do you think male pedophiles are genetically wired to rape young boys? How about people who practice bestiality? I think those are acquired or learned behaviors v. being born with those dispositions. Homosexuality in my opinion, a learned behavior. I’m a drunk not because of genetics. I’m a drunk because I learned to be one. I’m overweight not because of genetics, but because I consume more calories than I burn.

              August 03 2012
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              • Smilyj

                Yes. Now that’s discrimination!

                July 31 2012
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                • Travellinbaen

                  Fish, that incident is so mind-blowingly stupid and unabashedly racist that I can only blank stare about it. Possibly the most embarrassing news out of our state in years, and that’s saying something.

                  July 31 2012
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                  • Smilyj

                    Wow! The reaching to make a point is truly of “OLYMPIC” caliber.

                    July 31 2012
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                    • Jessie Lou

                      I will go out on a limb and say that TJ is correct here. TB is also correct in that it isn’t worth reporting about. If I had to agree politically with everything anyone says to buy their products or work in their office I would be both broke and starving. There are more important things to worry about.

                      July 31 2012
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